At a Clearing House conference on Wednesday in New York City, Jennifer Palmieri, a senior adviser to Harris’ husband Doug Emhoff, said the sitting vice president skipped appearing on Joe Rogan’s podcast out of fears of in-house “backlash,” reported the Financial Times.

Here’s everything you need to know about the high-profile interview the vice president never showed up to.  The marijuana rule Rogan had his heart set on interviewing Harris, and his team negotiated for weeks with the Harris campaign in an effort to agree to terms that both camps could sign off on.

While Kamala Harris never ended up sitting down with the podcaster, her Republican opponent took part in a three-hour-long interview on the show